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Posted on Sunday, 09 July, 2017 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Chat Zone users,

Please see the announcement made at the following link:

http://www.chatzones.co.uk/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=10&post=57809#POST57809
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Posted on Monday, 10 July, 2017 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you considered https://invisioncommunity.com/

25 concurrent online users (unlimited members) plan, $US 20/month, 2GB media & data storage, includes all apps except Commerce - hosted in the cloud and maintained by Invision.
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Posted on Monday, 10 July, 2017 - 02:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Disappoint" is not the word!

I've seen a lot worse chatzones. This one is precious! Please give up this crazy idea and keep on going as we are.
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I'm afraid there is no possibiltiy of us continuing the old legacy Discusware for the reasons given separately. We've taken this decision reluctantly and have given as much forward notice as we can.

Coupled with this is the extremely low traffic we see these days in any case, making it not viable to maintain an ancient legacy program handling just a handful of posts every week, along with all the technical and security risks that it increasingly poses to us.

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Posted on Monday, 10 July, 2017 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Certainly very very sad news.

And then I realize for how long I have been member of this forum, where I started as Agustín Tomás so many years ago.

I felt at home here with no flaming and almost not complains if any digression occurred. Do not expect much of that in other forums.

Attitude of the regulars made this place a good one to me. And the help I received here was HUGE. ¡Oh sí!

But whatever is given to you for free, when it is over, you cannot complain.

Noblesse oblige: a big thanks to the EPE team.

Hoy es un triste día.
Agustín Tomás - Buenos Aires - Argentina
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Posted on Monday, 10 July, 2017 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, ok... I agree with the others, of course.
A shame though. Especially as I only rediscovered PE relatively recently. Not wishing to introduce a smutty tone - thanks for keeping it up all these years!
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Posted on Monday, 10 July, 2017 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A very great pity indeed. It will be greatly missed. Thanks for all previous help and advise from you all.
Regards.
Ken.
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I understand the reasons for closing the forum and I will miss it. It has provided many interesting and varied topics over the years (and countless circuit surgery articles).

The friendliness of the users has been welcome. There have been few if any, arguments or flame wars a real rarity these days. In the past I've tried some other electronics forums, they are full or people asking for help or arguments with less meaningful help.

I'll keep popping in and helping where I can until the end. Thank you to all who have helped me over the years.
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Posted on Tuesday, 11 July, 2017 - 03:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps current users could all agree on which alternative forum to use?
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Posted on Tuesday, 11 July, 2017 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@istedman, other forums seem to be full of "please do my homework for me" type posts.

This forum will be missed.

But there you go, nothing lasts (in the words of the great Catweazle).
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Posted on Tuesday, 11 July, 2017 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



(Nothing works! :-)

We'll publish a short-list of suggested third-party groups to join, two of which look promising.

Also there is the possibility of a closed group on Facebook. This opens up new ways of talking with each other, but one problem is that it could attract lots of noise from non-EPE readers looking for anything to do with hobby electronics. Having a closed group (members only) might help keep it on track. Just a thought at the moment.

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Posted on Tuesday, 11 July, 2017 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

very bad news,but i suppose inevitable,with the rise of internet security problems;which have now reached the scale of international news-worthy stories.
i see a well managed members-only forum as being the only valid alternative to the 'old Bus' we know and love;simply to filter 'trolling' idiots and spammers who degrade,and simply plague,other forums.
Though i for one wouldn't touch facebook with a barge-pole...i get at least 4 spam emails a day claiming to have seen my profile;and i dont even use it
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Posted on Tuesday, 11 July, 2017 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,
A sad day indeed - a unique forum lost. I was grateful for help given when I joined, and glad to have given help more recently. My thanks to all who have helped me in the past - and I hope to re-connect with members somewhere else in the future.
Paul.
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Posted on Tuesday, 11 July, 2017 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a pity. Thanks to all who helped with advice in the past - very grateful.
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Posted on Tuesday, 11 July, 2017 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a great shame. Even though it isn't used a lot, I shall be sorry to see the EPE forum go.

I'm sure there are many alternatives, but one of its nicest features of this software is its quaint simplicity. A masterpiece of minimalist design that does just what is needed and nothing else. What a pity it cannot be made secure against the threats facing it today.

What ever happens, I would like to thank everyone involved in setting up and running the chat zone and EPE website. I know how much effort is involved and really do appreciate it.

Gary.
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Posted on Wednesday, 12 July, 2017 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello.
Understand but to a point disagree reasons mentioned to close ChatZone in the link provided.

A ¨100% robustess track record¨ Is all that matters. If if works, let it be.

Clunky? "Bringing to today's standards" is the least I care, no need for bells, whistles and mainstream complications.
No need to upgrade nor funneling into social %$#^&@ sites.

As last resource, take is as another Brexit. The important part is the human quality of the members that made the group, collectable in other forums that are very active and growing elsewhere.

THANKS for a good ride and best wishes to all members for their dedication, help, knowledge and correctness. Thanks to EPE for harboring us. See you at other sites if you keep your usernames.

I believe brilliant suggestions will propose a good migration at some point. There is ETO, AAC, EDA, EP...
Abolish the deciBel !
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Posted on Wednesday, 12 July, 2017 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alan,

For grumpy old gits like myself, your "clunky" is our ease of use - and it really is easy to use. It's not packed with a gazillion features that nobody wants or ever uses... and I also personally like the fact that it doesn't change it's look and feel just for the sake of it.

However, things move on I suppose, and whilst I'm not a Facebook fan (I'm always paranoid that if I click on something the entire world will know about it and her-in-doors will find out how much I spend electronics), a closed group someplace sounds like a good idea and I suppose it would take the pressure off you whilst letting some multi-billion dollar company worry about hosting and maintenance.

Wow look at me... embracing change...

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Posted on Wednesday, 12 July, 2017 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello everyone,

Main issues for me are ongoing data protection, and the fact that the Perl version on the web server gets patched occasionally and actually it's a miracle the forum still works at all! Our super ISP kindly rolled back a server update specially for us, in order to keep the forum going. But there's no doubt that eventually something will break somewhere. The software is unsupported and will never be updated.

The very low volumes of traffic will make it non-viable to continue as-is, but I'd like to try steering users over to a new forum, or a closed (members only) moderated Facebook group is a possibility.

I appreciated the nice comments about the EPE web site and forum, thank you everyone.

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A closed moderated Facebook group would be good and as I'm a regular Facebook user I'd be happy to volunteer a little bit of time to help with moderating, admin, member requests, etc. if required.

I'm a member of a few Facebook groups including a support group that organises a lot of activities via Facebook. Many people join just for access to that group. Join with a thowaway email address, set your privacy settings to "maximum paranoia", don't enter any personal details and turn off all notifications. Then interacting with Facebook could be limited to reading group posts. You may have to convince group admins you're not a spammer but usually they just ask for a short "describe your interest in this group" type message to show you know a bit about what you are asking to join!

There's loads of Facebook groups that members of this forum will be interested in, for example I'm a member of groups about vintage computers, fans of the BBC micro and vintage keyboards as well as groups for my local area, my alma mater and my old schools.
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Posted on Wednesday, 12 July, 2017 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anything but Facebook please Alan. You get plagued with dozens of useless notifications every day
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Posted on Wednesday, 12 July, 2017 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi

I too am saddened by the news. My first issue of EE was bought after seeing a TV commercial advertising how to build a garage remote control in the issue. I didn't even have a garage (well I was only about 13).

I continued reading every issue until mid 80s when travel took over. Occasional issue not much more until early ish 2000 with most issues from around 2009.

I only joined the forum last year and I've been reading the archives with great interest (Bruce, you are hilarious, keep up the bad work and Graeme seems well versed in most matters).

Reading these archives makes me agree with everything everyone has said about the members. There is no site quite like this.

Many will never consider Faceache and other sites for many reasons. I am not a member of any social media at all (I'm not 12 any more. Why would I care what you had for breakfast or why would I want 2,000 complete strangers knowing anything about me at all? <rantover>), so I, like many other won't consider it.

In saying that, surely with our combined membership we "have a brain the size of a planet" so let's not just go to the Bridge.....

I freely admit that I don't know the first thing about the new DP rules etc but I do know that I have tons of available bandwidth and hosted server space doing nothing... My needs are modest to say the least and the cheapest option is still way more than I need. I also know I have MySql DBs at my disposal and a ton of free software including "forums" lying untouched. Perhaps that could be utilised somehow?

I'm sure many out there could be in the same position too. Actually I think that if you had a modest $5 yearly subscription then you could easily afford one of the mainstream providers. Would data security not then become one of their problems instead of yours? I would happily pay a subscription to keep this the way it is, or as close as we can get in the future.

Please consider all options before you short circuit us, but we do appreciate where you are coming from and we know the decision would not have been taken lightly.

Sad day....
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Posted on Wednesday, 12 July, 2017 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am already member of forums below, so anyone could find me there with same pen name and avatar:

Microchip forum
electrotechonline (ETO)
allaboutcircuits (AAC)
eevblog

Sorry, but a closed (?) group I don't know where, sounds horrible to me.

All forums have some flaws or things you could not like. Some time ago I decided to leave with it and simply skip what bothers me. Time is a precious asset that nobody can replace.

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If it would be of interest we would be willing to host a forum on the Tandy web servers.
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uc27> Many will never consider Faceache and other sites for many reasons.

Agreed 100%.

uc27> Actually I think that if you had a modest $5 yearly subscription then you
uc27> could easily afford one of the mainstream providers.

Indeed - it wouldn't even need to be that much. See the second post above - $US 20 per year.
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Alan

In less than 24hrs you have people willing to host (yes, I know lawyers will add their tuppence worth), and if you made it subscription you would only need 50 or so members contributing $5 each per year to afford that hosted service mentioned above.

Hopefully something to think on.

Best wishes
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Thank you everyone for the ideas and the encouraging level of interest shown. I wouldn't wish for anyone to expend too much time and effort just yet as a number of conversations are going on here at HQ, and besides, it's still early days yet.

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I'll be sorry to see Chat Zone go, having been a user for about 15 years. Completely understand the reasons, and looking back I'm so pleased it lasted as long as it did in this modern age!

I do now have one problem - what am I going to use as a home page now? Its a comforting sight (site) to see when the browser starts.

I'd like to thank Alan for his sterling efforts and patience. He is one of the unsung heros!

Ian
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Alan,

This has been a fantastic forum and enjoyed by many of us. I left the EPE subscriber community some years ago following the Pocketmags issues, however I have kept with the forum more or less.

There is no doubt it has helped many people, allowed experiences to be shared, excited more than a few, wound up some arguments and also made some fun. I've had inspiration on here and I hope I've been able to give some back at least once!

However, it is a sad fact that our hobby is reducing (dying is a strong word) and I have noticed, with dismay, the frequency of postings reducing. The nature has also changed and the demise of this wonderful facility was inevitable.

Well done - indeed Congratulations - on keeping it going this long. It would be a shame if it just stopped there; it occurs to me that the legacy of some respected people, Dave Barrington & John Becker among them, has lived on in the spirit of the hobby encapsulated here.

I hope we can get a Facebook or similar page going as it would be a shame to lose touch with old friends - even if apparently virtual ones - from around the world.


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Posted on Sunday, 16 July, 2017 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A very sad day indeed. You don't realise how much you will miss something until it has truly gone. I have always liked the look and ease of use of this forum, and the depth of knowledge provided by the contributers. ARW has done a great job in keeping it running for so long.
Like many, electronics has been a great hobby for me, and this forum has definitely provided some great entertainment and laughs over the years.
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I am hoping to find a few volunteers to help test a new forum I have set-up over the weekend. It is just a trial at the moment to try and get some feedback/suggestions.

The forum address is https://forum.electronorama.com

PS. Checked with Alan that posting the details would be OK as I don't want to upset anyone.

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Indeed, rather than hijack this thread perhaps people who would like to give feedback suggestions about the electronorama forum please either post in the forum https://forum.electronorama.com/t/forum-feedback/25/1 or send me a private message.

Thanks

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Posted on Wednesday, 19 July, 2017 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've tided this thread a little to keep it on-topic, and will keep users posted when we've more news to announce. We are working on several avenues with a fellow contributor and although it's still early days we expect to be able to offer users several choices so they can continue to enjoy their regular contacts with EPE and fellow users.

For the avoidance of doubt, EPE would also like to clarify that there are no circumstances in which we would allow a Chat Zone user's personal details (names, email addresses etc.) to be exported to any third party forum, as to do so would be a serious infringement of data protection and privacy principles.

The user database will itself expire when the forum goes to read-only. This is to safeguard your personal data, which is of paramount importance to us.

The forum posts themselves represent 12 years of timely and interesting EPE online resources which will remain online at chatzones.co.uk for the foreseeable future as already explained.


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TBH, I'm relaxed about the privacy issues, except just on principle. It's not as if I've admitted to shooting JFK --- Oops! DAMN!!
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Sad to hear that, EPE Chat Zone forum is good platform to solve a lot people electronics issue answer and question,without all this EPE Chat Zone EPEMAG serve no purpose.no doubt a usage is low, but when you need it, you no where can find an answer if this platform is gone. I hope you can reconsider
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What sad news,this is the only chat zone I feel happy to use. This not good for EPE mag!
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All is not lost, I am looking at other alternatives. Rest assured we will try to keep our band of users together!

Due to the reasons stated above (low usage, server compatibility, obsolete unsupported software, security) , this legacy forum software is reaching its end of life and it's unfortunately not viable to keep running it. I'll write more about this in the October issue of my Net Work column.

Be sure to keep checking the Chat Zone for announcements.

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Posted on Tuesday, 08 August, 2017 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's possible that some of you may be wondering why I haven't been posting here much in recent months.
It's because I've essentially retired from active chatzone duty to the Chatzoners' retirement home.
It may be unknown to some of you but EPE's management has commissioned the conversion of a large hotel in Bournemouth into a retirement/rest home for aging chatzoners. It was realised by EPE's staff that, with the life of the chatzone coming to an end, many chatzoners may have need of a retirement facility after many years of active duty.
The food is good here and the care staff are very attentive.
Residency is free with the only eligibility stipulation being that you must have a history of at least 8 years of chatzone activity and you must continue to pay your EPE subscription.
I can recommend it here. It's a nice place to be. There are plenty of Electronics hobyists' facilities and there is also plenty of electronics chat at meal times.

Generally I try to keep the existence of this retirement facility quiet to avoid over subscription, but I know you guys can keep a secret so I'll share it with you.

yours in clover,

James
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"All is not lost, I am looking at other
alternatives. Rest assured we will try to keep
our band of users together" - ARW, Board
Administrator, on 6 August

Any news on this, please?

Unless we get a reprieve, "the No. 1 UK magazine
for electronics technology & computer projects"
is planning to pull the plug on this valued group
in less than seven weeks' time.

Michelle
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Rest assured I am indeed looking at some alternatives, along with another EPE columnist, and hope to have some encouraging news to share in the next few weeks. It's also holiday season so we're thin on the ground just now.

I also hope to share more news in the October issue of my Net Work column.

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ANNOUNCING A NEW HOME FOR EPE'S FORUM

As regular Chat Zone users will know, reluctantly the decision has been taken to eventually wind down our legacy forum for reasons of user security, server compatibility and lack of software support. We will eventually switch this forum to ‘read-only’ mode but we wanted to give fair warning to all our users before doing so, and it looks like this will now happen sometime in November.

We’re really pleased to announce that the USA-based electronics engineering website EEWeb has kindly agreed to host a section of their forum specially for EPE Magazine. The EEWeb site is one of the largest electronics engineering sites of its kind and has recently undergone a redesign, launching as recently as last Monday. Apart from having our own dedicated area on EEWeb, this also offers users plenty of surrounding electronics content and a large breadth of material that we’re sure many users will enjoy engaging with. You'll also find Max 'Cool Beans' Maxfield very actively participating on EEWeb as an Editor.

We do acknowledge that this is quite some departure from the basic style of the legacy Chat Zone forum and it might take some getting used to. But we feel it’s worth the effort. We wanted to ensure that our readers manage to assemble under a new umbrella hosted by EEWeb, in the knowledge that EPE is there as always, so we propose running the two forums in parallel for a period, aiming to migrate our users over to the new EEWeb.

You can visit the forum at https://www.eeweb.com then choose Our Community > Forums

Or a direct link to the forum is https://www.eeweb.com/forum/tags/epe-magazine.

EEWeb has kindly hosted EPE Magazine as a ‘Sub Topic’ on the right-hand listing, of the web page. The new forum system is very advanced and right up to date, and powerful tagging options ensure your question or post can be categorised to attract the attention of other users interested in the same kind of subject.

REGISTERING AT EEWeb

It’s necessary to create your own account and username, which can be done by Registering (top right) at https://www.eeweb.com/register
or follow the link at the top right of EEWeb’s home page. Have fun posting a bio or intro and a pic, if you wish!

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE

Here's something that is fundamental to every post that you want to make into our new forum: it is ESSENTIAL to tag (with our keyword) your post which will route your post correctly to our area. Simply start typing EPE into the field marked Tag Your Question and EPE-Magazine will auto-complete. Your question will then be posted automatically to our section. That’s really all there is to it! We hope you’ll soon find everything intuitive.

EEWeb is entirely responsible for the operation of the forum and their own simple but fair rules of usage apply. Also, please be aware that EEWeb operates independently of us and we have no control or record of user details, and that user information is stored securely by EEWeb and not by us.

Once again we’re really excited about this partnership which gives readers lots of new online content, so we hope you’ll hop over to EEWeb and register your account and username. See you over there!

-- the EPE Team
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> Posted by tandy on Friday, 27 October, 2017 - 12:20 am:
> Oh that is horrible!, massive in your face advertising all over the place. Not sure
> why you chose that option to be honest, but as they say on the Dragons Den, I'm out.

I agree that the advertising is OTT. An adblocker helps :-)

Additionally, the sub-forum approach is painful. I use another forum which uses sub-forums and every time someone forgets to correctly tag their post, it ends up in the general dross that has no bearing on the sub-forum and is then missed.

It's disappointing, but that's progress for ya!
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I disagree with the minimal advertising statement, If I click on your welcome message https://www.eeweb.com/forum/welcome-to-epe-magazines-new-forum I see 7 adverts.

A banner at the top, a pair of large vertical ads in the margins on either side and 5 ads in a row down the side of your message.
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I'm sorry to learn that Tandy does not wish to support us. However I'm sure other EPE readers and forum regulars are able to visit the new site and make up their own minds, and we look forward to welcoming them onboard.

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It isn't a question of support, but simply expressing my personal opinion about the move. It just seems an peculiar choice. If EPE had benefited from the link in some way by receiving a commission from the heavy advertising then the move would have made sense.

As EPE has nothing to gain from the heavy advertising it seems a real shame that you didn't choose a less intrusive forum to recommend to Chat Zone users. For example EEVBlog has no advertising at all, I am a member there and find it a hobbyist friendly environment. I had never heard of EEWeb until your announcement and just took an instant dislike to it, it feels very commercial rather than community orientated, a bit like those free advertising newspapers.
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One more reason is that EPE's Clive (Max) Maxfield is also a respected and long-standing Editor there, and without his help it could not have been put together so quickly, especially at a time when EEWeb's new site was undergoing months of beta testing behind the scenes and only launched on Monday.

Aspencore is the name behind EEWeb and is known for providing technical online content for the electronics engineering community.
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I've just looked and there was nothing obtrusive. No-one likes adverts but it is a fact of life.

The reality is the world is changing and we must change with it. I've noticed the pace of CZ slowing, I post myself less and less now.

We must face facts that the number of hobbyists is dwindling and we must therefore take advantage of going global, and it's almost irrelevant where that platform is.

I resented the imposition of Silicon Chip, then Pocketmags, and consequently I have not purchased or read an EPE since. Still, however, I was welcomed on CZ and paid not a penny for it, nor watched a single advert. I cannot complain.

Alan - well done for keeping it alive. Success or otherwise will be determined by "us" users. However, it is alive and hopefully the new forum will develop with - just maybe - a larger audience.
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Thanks Dave, I'm sure it will take a good while for the new forum area to build up traffic but I'm optimistic that it will benefit many readers over time. See you over there ;-)
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Thanks for sorting this Alan. Like so many things, this will have taken a lot of time and effort to set up.
I guess we should stop posting here now and hop over to eeweb.
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Thanks, don't worry, there's a bit of time yet as I am running both forums in parallel for the time being.

It also gives me time to figure a few things out! :-)
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A Little Bit Confused of SE London writes:

ARW says here: ..."it is ESSENTIAL to tag (with
our keyword) your post which will route your post
correctly to our area. Simply start typing EPE
into the field marked Tag Your Question and
EPE-Magazine will auto-complete. Your question
will then be posted automatically to our section."

I've successfully registered my own account and
username on EEWeb. I've successfully navigated
to the EPE Magazine sub-topic section of EEWeb.
I've arrived.

Now I want to ask a question/launch a discussion
topic on the EPE Magazine sub-topic section of
EEWeb.

BUT ...

I don't see any field marked "Tag your question"
on EEWeb.

What I do see is:

1) a field marked "Type of question" (which only
allows me to choose from a drop-down list and
will not let me type in EPE or anything else).

2) a field marked "Question Body."

Where do I go to type in "EPE" as ARW says in
order to get going with posting a
question/discussion topic on the EPE Magazine
section of EEWeb? I assume at the start of
"Question Body" but is that right?

(Message edited by MichelleOBrien on 28 October, 2017)
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After logging in, start with the Ask A Question button

Type of Question (Select category - General will do), but if you pick an appropriate one (eg Test and Measurement) then that will help to target it at interested people, re. the Forum categories listed on the right.

Question Title = Subject

Question Body = your post

Tag Your Question - start to type EPE and it will autocomplete as the EPE-Magazine sub topic.

There is nothing to stop you tagging into another topic as well (or instead of). You will see multiple keywords, which helps users with subsequent searching/ sorting of messages.

I am awaiting answers from the developers about some aspects (eg posting hyperlinks and uploading files etc.) so please be patient in the meantime.
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Thank you, Alan.

Congratulations to you and everyone else involved
in setting up the EPE facility on EEWeb.

Its creation has saved this group from
disintegration for which I personally as a rank
amateur am profoundly grateful. In the few months
I've been a participant here I've learned a good deal.

And into the bargain, EEWeb is a great site.

Michelle O'Brien
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eurgh.the first encounter 'flying blind' as it where,was entering a search term 'EPE' to find the subforum..
the first result was a posting about bit-coin mining containing the phrase d epe nding...which was triggered by the search query;as the EPE sub-forum gets more postings i fear they may dissapear into the pot...
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Fair point, the direct link is (as per above)

https://www.eeweb.com/forum/tags/epe-magazine

or the Sub Topic list on the right-hand side (at the bottom, for now anyway).

At the next web update I will be adding more hyperlinks dotted around the place which should make finding the new forum very easy.
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There is no way at present we now learn to post
pictures, diagrams, schema on the EPE on-line
forum's new home, https://www.eeweb.com/forum/tags/epe-magazine.

So sorry, but that's me out.

Thank you Alan Winstanley and Max and everyone
else who has worked so hard trying to find the
forum here a new base.

But words, words, words and nothing but words are
no use to me.

As Alice in Wonderland asked, what is the use of
a book (or on-line forum, as she could have said
nowadays) without pictures?

To understand I need to see.

If/when EPE magazine announces that the forum's
new home can feature pictures, diagrams and
schema I'll be back for sure - EEWeb.com is a
good site.

But until then, it has to be goodbye from me.

Bye.
Michelle O'Brien
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Hopefully it's Au Revoir not Adieu,

I agree uploading images and files is a nice touch but not that many forums are keen to host them on their users' behalf, unless they're Facebook that is.

It's easy enough, though not quite as slick, to link to a URL but of course you have to host the image somewhere yourself. As the CZ disallows HTML within posts (for security etc), all you can do here is post a hyperlink this way.

One such site you might try is http://postimages.org/

Eg

https://s19.postimg.org/gnpdf62yb/coco-says-hi.jpg

It's on the Wish List along with lots of other things. See
https://www.eeweb.com/forum/is-there-a-way-to-post-a-small-picture-on-this-forum-like-the-old-forum

Thank you for your encouraging feedback and we hope to see you again soon!

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i haven't even bothered registering...

it seems totaly devoted to 'advertorials' and product placement;NOT towards the hobbyist in any way.i know the 'gap' is blurring but...naaah!

The fact that no graphic files are allowed just cripples it as a useable platform; whilst i wouldn't under-estimate the security problems involved,i would expect this feature be a pre-requisite for this type of thing;it certainly is in every other forum i have seen,as after all 'a picture is worth a thousand words'
teething problems? i really hope so
11 years since i first registered on EPEChatzone wow!doesn't time fly.
i can't thank the other chatzone users enough for their years of help,humour,and inspiration
Over and out...
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Other sites run by AspenCore do, I am told, have the image sharing ability but they're higher profile, busier portal sites. EEWeb is more of a resource where contributors can post articles, and the forums are just one part of a bigger site. I too hope that images can be posted eventually. I have been asked by the developers to provide a spec. for image processing.

In the shorter term it's necessary to host your own images (Facebook, PostImages, Flickr, etc) and link the URL. For the low amount of traffic vs the resources it would take up, I'm sorry I don't have anything else to offer except a (closed) Facebook group which nobody said they would use either.

This situation is fluid but it has to fit in around our own workflow. I'll always post news into the Chat Zone and EPE website so do please check there periodically.

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@hackinblack.
Nothing for nothing in this life. It is a sad fact of life that we are bombarded by adverts, emails, letters and phone calls. All of that to give us 'free' websites. Whilst I certainly don't embrace it, I have to accept it. By accepting it, I have started to ignore it, so I worry less about it. Don't give up on EPE. A picture is worth a lot, but there is a work around, and hopefully Alan will get direct posting.
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Michelle/hackinblack - I've just managed to register (junk mail settings on my e mail gave me some problems) and had a flick about.

The lack of images aside, it's OK. We had adverts in the printed editions of EPE and others, and no-one complained. It's life, and as basementboy says, nothing is for nothing. Actually some of them are interesting.

I'm now seeing this as just a bigger version of our forum, making our circle of friends larger. Marvellous.

There are few of us hobbyists left, so don't leave the compound...:-)

Anyway, Alan has worked hard, pardon me but I think we owe him a go at this.

We've had a really good FOC forum for a long time!
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Dear Chat Zone Users,

As announced mid-year we have reluctantly taken the decision to switch the EPE Chat Zone forum to 'read only' mode. To recap, this is mainly due to the legacy nature of the now unsupported forum software, server-related issues and the very low traffic seen compared with years gone by.

This changeover will happen on 7th December 2017 when the January 2018 EPE Magazine is published.

EPE hopes to continue hosting the forum for reference purposes for as long as possible, but future server compatibility or other unforeseen issues may affect this long term.

The user database itself will be erased as required by data protection legislation. For this reason unfortunately it won't be possible for us to put users in touch with each other afterwards. You are welcome to post or swap messages etc in the meantime.

Chat Zone users are invited to register for the new EPE Magazine sub topic kindly hosted by EEWeb. This is a more focussed peer-driven electronics forum for engineers, students and hobbyists.

EPE would like to thank users for their interest and support in the EPE Chat Zone forum ever since it opened in 2005 and we hope to see you in the new forum.

- The EPE Team

(Message edited by admin on 03 December, 2017)
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Will it all be available on dvd, just in case?
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If I can successfully parse the web site then it might be (depends), it's something that's on the Wish List.

I've no reason to think it will disappear in the foreseeable future in any case, though.
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Before CZ shuts down, ide like to say a thank you to all who helped me in the past. Along the way, ive learned very much.
A thank you also goes to the CZ admin team...
__ Rich __
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Not shut down Rich, just moved!

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